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#13967 - 10/16/06 07:09 AM Dispatch Rounds
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Registered: 07/22/00
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A few years back we had a good thread on dispatch rounds.Just to open it up for discussion again.Here are some of the exterior ballistics that you can really expect for some of the common rounds used.The orginal thread can be found in the General trapping archives under"dispatch rounds"

p=pistol,r=rifle,fps=feet per second @15',fp=foot pounds of enegery @15'

CB short..p=681 fps/30 fp...r=748 fps/36 fp

CB long..p=578 fps/21.5 fp...r=734 fps/35 fp

Short HV..p=993 fps/63.5 fp...r=1112fps/79.5 fp

LR HVHP..p=1075 fps/97.5 fp...r=1307fps/144 fp

LR Sub Sonic..p=860 fps/62.5 fp...r=974 fps/80 fp

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#13968 - 10/16/06 04:39 PM Re: Dispatch Rounds
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Interesting enough for data enthusiast I suppose ... but at 1- 2 foot range ballistics dont really mean much in dispatching an animal.

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#13969 - 10/17/06 08:02 AM Re: Dispatch Rounds
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The devil they don't. Try shooting a coyote in the forehead with a CB.

On second thought, please don't try that.

It might bevbetter if Ric could include the energy values as well.

smile -- Hal
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#13970 - 10/17/06 02:55 PM Re: Dispatch Rounds
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Why does the CB short have more of everything that the CB long?? In the .22cal normal world, it's usually the opposite. confused Frank.
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#13971 - 10/17/06 03:44 PM Re: Dispatch Rounds
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That's interesting about the CB short and long comparasions. I've shot a few CBs, didn't realize that the Longs had less "juice" than the shorts. A few years ago I used standard HV "shorts" in my trapline pistol, 6" BBL, honestly they were as loud as the cheap .22 LRs, and more expensive. I only bought 100 rounds, and switched back to LRs when they were gone. I'm sure everyone has different "needs" from their gun. One thing i think about is the animal that's poorly held, maybe by 2 or 3 toes. Most of my equipment is "small" compared to "coyote" traps, if I catch a yote or bobcat in a 1 3/4 coilspring, and can't tell for sure it's held firmly, I'll tip-toe within range, get a good rest and shoot it through the lungs. Here where I work, we have the 550 round box of Federal HPLR .22's for $10.50 For my purpose, I'd rather have the extra "punch", they're cheaper too. smile

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#13972 - 10/17/06 03:48 PM Re: Dispatch Rounds
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For all intents and purposes, the CB Long and CB Short have the same power. Just because one has a longer case doesn't mean it has more powder. I think the difference between the CB Long and the CB Short in this case may be an anomaly. Actually their advertised values are the same. At any rate there is only 1 foot-pound of difference in energy between the two in Ric's figures. The only practical difference between the two is the length of the case. The CB Long has a "long rifle" case. Thus you can shoot CB Longs in a regular Long Rifle chamber with no danger of "ringing" the chamber by firing too short of a load in it. But the truth is, you would have to fire literally thousands of rounds of "shorts" to do any damage at all to a standard Long Rifle chamber.

smile -- Hal
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#13973 - 10/17/06 08:58 PM Re: Dispatch Rounds
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Hal ... I guess I dont have much of an opinion of CB caps ... or use for ... but I understand about the coyote ... once had a yote that took 5 .22 LR's to put down ... I just dont get that technical about trapping

Steve

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#13974 - 10/17/06 09:14 PM Re: Dispatch Rounds
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Quote:
once had a yote that took 5 .22 LR's to put down ... I just dont get that technical about trapping

Steve
I gotta ask, Where were you shooting it? confused

RO smile

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#13975 - 10/17/06 09:25 PM Re: Dispatch Rounds
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head ... where else?

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#13976 - 10/17/06 09:59 PM Re: Dispatch Rounds
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Registered: 09/15/06
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Loc: Pennsylvania
Years back, when I was running coon hounds, I tried every .22 rimfire round that I could find to shoot treed raccoons. I settled on CCI mini-mag short hollow points. Even on shots traveling from under the jaw they usually lay against the hide on the top of the head. The bullets were perfect mushrooms. I shot numerous large bodied coons down with this round with chest shots--the results were the same with the bullet laying on the opposite side against the hide. I do not recall having any difficulty with this round; if I hit them they died quickly. My daughter has me getting back into the trapping routine and I will be using this round again--if of course I can find some as not every dealer carries them.

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