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#14272 - 04/20/06 09:00 PM Longlining Expenses
Mike McChurin Offline
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Registered: 12/03/02
Posts: 497
Loc: NE Oklahoma
Say I decided to run a longline for coyotes. This would be run from my home, so I wouldn't have to pay for lodging. And, I would probably pack meals from home to save time and money.

Tell me if I missed any big expenses:

Gas and vehicle maint.(tires, oil, etc...)
Trapping licenses and permits
Traps, gear and lures.
Fur handling equipment.

I know that's a short generalized list. Tell me if I missed a biggie or you can add specific items to the stuff I have listed.

Let's hear it.

Mike

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#14273 - 04/20/06 09:45 PM Re: Longlining Expenses
trap jaw Offline
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Registered: 06/09/05
Posts: 430
Loc: Lancaster Co. Pennsylvania
Family time, if you're married or have kids. smile

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#14274 - 04/21/06 07:27 AM Re: Longlining Expenses
jwr Offline
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Registered: 02/19/03
Posts: 199
Loc: ark
Say I decided to run a longline for coyotes.

Sounds like you never have run a a long line.
Permission, Permission, Permission, It's a every year thing. Never assume you'll have it next yaer, make the trip every year to ask.

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#14275 - 04/21/06 10:21 AM Re: Longlining Expenses
NEbowhunter Offline
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Registered: 04/21/05
Posts: 574
Loc: Holdrege, Nebraska
I cant say i long line. I do as much as i can and keep a full time job.

If you are looking at budget figures i cant think of much else. I would always add about 10% contingency when i try and estimate because there is always unknowns.

the permisson thing is every year and goes along with all the preseason work.

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#14276 - 04/21/06 08:26 PM Re: Longlining Expenses
trap jaw Offline
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Registered: 06/09/05
Posts: 430
Loc: Lancaster Co. Pennsylvania
One thing that may help with your fuel cost would be to start yourself a savings account now and put ten or twenty bucks a week in it to go towards your gas expense. When the season comes you'll be better prepared to handle the fuel cost, especially since it is hard to tell what the cost of a gallon of gas will be. I'm not a long liner but I do this anyway. Makes things a little smoother on the budget.

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#14277 - 04/22/06 11:36 AM Re: Longlining Expenses
Trapper Joe Offline
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Registered: 01/02/06
Posts: 41
Loc: New brunswick
I see you don't have an ATV in your list.

Up till now I have not used my ATV much for trapping. I just trap the best places I can drive into. I usually drive 100 to 120 miles per day doing this but so far it has worked well for me.

This spring I got a trailer to haul my ATV on to use for trapping. There are a quite few areas I could trap more thoroughly with the 4-wheeler.

Any particular reason not to use an ATV in your area Mike?

You mention coyotes but maybe cats there too? An ATV might put you on locations inaccessible with a truck or car.

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#14278 - 04/23/06 08:28 AM Re: Longlining Expenses
lynx/cat-trapper Offline
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Registered: 12/31/00
Posts: 350
Loc: Twin Falls,Id.
The savings account is a good idea....AS is a 4 wheeler... one of the BEST things you can do is to plan out your line to make it the MOST efficient you can....I did this last year and saved over 500 in FUEL costs alone. You'll learn where the hot spots are...and where the dead spots are...drop the bad and set the hot ones heavily.
lynx

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#14279 - 04/23/06 09:34 AM Re: Longlining Expenses
Trapper Joe Offline
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Registered: 01/02/06
Posts: 41
Loc: New brunswick
I wonder what percentage of fur revenue trappers spend on gas and vehicle expense while trapping.

I have not figured it out exactly but I think about 15% - 18% of my fur revenue goes for gas and vehicle maintenance for trapping purposes. You can add a lot of miles while scouting in some cases so that has to be figured in. Running an old vehicle that is fully depreciated helps.

Gas alone is less than 10% so gas would have to go up quite a bit to slow me down.

I do not know if running a 4-wheeler will add to the expense significantly. It might increase the catch enough to keep percentages the same. Problem is, ATV require license and insurance here, expenses, expenses :rolleyes: .

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#14280 - 04/24/06 11:42 AM Re: Longlining Expenses
Dusty Offline
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Registered: 12/15/00
Posts: 420
Loc: North Pole, Alaska, USA
Having lived in that Trapper's Paradise they call Oklahoma, I'd recomend an out-of-state (just pick one!) trapping license. You're going to spend more time tacking up signs than checking traps.

Trapper Joe - I'm just curious - what's the other 90%? I'd guess that 90%+ of what I spend while trapping is for gas and vehicle maintenance - mostly gas. And, my trapline vehicle (airplane) is maintained to a higher standard and requires more expensive parts than most.

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#14281 - 04/24/06 01:52 PM Re: Longlining Expenses
Trapper Joe Offline
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Registered: 01/02/06
Posts: 41
Loc: New brunswick
Dusty, that is 10 percent of fur income goes for gas. It takes $10 in gas to catch $100 in fur roughly. Of course, vehicle maintenance, insurance, depreciation etc. add quite a bit more to that. I don't think I would trap much if expenses ran to 50 % in total.

But later in the season I chase coyotes just for sport. I probably spend more than I receive then. I don't see any sense in longlining unless it is profitable. I would just run a dozen or so traps for recreation if expenses were too high.

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