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#16246 - 06/20/10 04:20 PM Innovations Over the Past 20 Years.
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What do you think are the most important or most helpful trapping innovations of the past twenty years?

Hal
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#16247 - 06/20/10 05:26 PM Re: Innovations Over the Past 20 Years.
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VHS, DVD, and the internet. When I started trapping in high school in the early to mid 1980's, all the information I had came from books and first hand from a friend who really got me started in trapping. After taking an almost 20 year "break" from trapping due to military service, living out of state etc... I started up again in 2006. The wealth of available information through dvd's and vhs tapes, and the internet is unbelievable. Access to equipment isn't from one or two catalogs, but a multitude of websites and catalogs. Back when I started, everybody trapped, but it was a pretty secretive society to break into. Now, the people who are left who trap, have great websites like this one, where a person can get a question answered in a few hours.

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#16248 - 06/20/10 07:27 PM Re: Innovations Over the Past 20 Years.
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I agree with Eatsleep trap. Information helped weed out the voodoo that new trappers believed in.

The body grip trap was a very important invention with regards to trapping tools. It gave the trapper "time" between checks and also helped overcome some of the weather challenges experienced in northern climates.

However, I believe that Frank Conibear invented his trap much longer than 20 years ago so it doesn't count in this thread.

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#16249 - 06/21/10 07:44 AM Re: Innovations Over the Past 20 Years.
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Yep. The bodygrip trap has now reached the half-century mark. (And I can remember when they came out. smile )

Hal
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#16250 - 06/21/10 09:49 AM Re: Innovations Over the Past 20 Years.
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When I was about 10, I traded my four muskrat pelts for four brand new conibear 110's. My father thought I was nuts. That was 51 years ago. My dad has passed - I wish he was here to see how the body grips have progressed in popularity.

I agree with the other members about this website. Any question I have -- I can find an answer right here. Thank you, Hal!!! PS I remember corn cribs, too!!

Ron Finewood

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#16251 - 06/21/10 12:13 PM Re: Innovations Over the Past 20 Years.
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the body grip, cable stakes and the avaliability of GOOD lure to everyone.When I started in 1965 there was none of the above.(available to me) They made the actual trapping easier. And the avalibility of many different formats of information. And in my humble opinion there was some good information available during the fur boom but the stuff that is available now is much better.
I enjoyed the prices of the furboom but I hope I never see some of the other night mares that were caused by it.

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#16252 - 06/21/10 05:56 PM Re: Innovations Over the Past 20 Years.
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Sullivan's trap tester..

On of the few "gadgets" that have come out that is actually useful

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#16253 - 06/21/10 07:53 PM Re: Innovations Over the Past 20 Years.
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Waxed dirt/sand might make the list. I was impressed with it last year after making my first batch and I've started making some for this fall.

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#16254 - 06/23/10 06:26 AM Re: Innovations Over the Past 20 Years.
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Snares, and snare locks have improved a good bit. I agree about the use of body grips, bucket sets, culverts, and especially the above ground sets for marten/fisher & bobcat. My hands are pretty well tied here in WV, but for some of the guys using them in other areas, it's almost a matter-of-fact thing. Either the trap is set, or you caught something. And dog proof coon traps.

My opinion, one of the most important things that's changed in the last 20 years is attitude. Not just trappers, but our DNR's, and the public. smile

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#16255 - 06/23/10 07:25 PM Re: Innovations Over the Past 20 Years.
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This probably doesn't really belong on this thread - but - since joining this site, I have learned how to night latch my traps. I have done all of them. In a bench vise - with a magnifying glass! I love it! I can't see too good anymore, but I can now set traps with my eyes closed. I hear the little "click" and know that the little machine is perfect for action. Thank you - Thank you! Mr. Hal.

Ron Finewood

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#16256 - 06/26/10 10:57 PM Re: Innovations Over the Past 20 Years.
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#1 the internet #2 the Ram powersnare

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#16257 - 06/27/10 04:04 AM Re: Innovations Over the Past 20 Years.
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nicc: Why do you feel that the Ram is so important? And do you think that Marty's new lock will replace the Ram?

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#16258 - 06/27/10 03:06 PM Re: Innovations Over the Past 20 Years.
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Musher.
The ram is my only legal snaring option in the open area trapping district for a lot of animals.
In this area we can get snow everyday and lots of it with all sorts of sleet mixed in from time to time.

I find less snare damage and no waterheads with the Ram.


I don,t think that martys lock will ever totally replace the ram even if it becomes legal in all areas.

I have no doubt that some of the guys with Registered traplines(no snaring restrictions ) are already using Martys lock.

hope that answers your questions.

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#16259 - 06/27/10 03:18 PM Re: Innovations Over the Past 20 Years.
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For those of us that are snare ignorant, what is "Marty's lock?" I know the basic concept of a Ram (though others might not). Thanks.

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#16260 - 06/27/10 04:22 PM Re: Innovations Over the Past 20 Years.
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Are you guys talking about the lock or the powering device behind the lock. (I think the latter.)

Hal
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#16261 - 06/27/10 05:14 PM Re: Innovations Over the Past 20 Years.
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A ram is a conibear type spring that closes a snare around the animals head.

Marty Senneker has invented a device that releases a compressed stinger spring. Thus the animal closes the snare, thereby activating the release device, and the stinger applies pressure. In other words the animal does not compress the stinger spring. The spring is already compressed by the trapper.

Think of it as a super mini Ram around the catches neck. smile

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#16262 - 06/27/10 10:16 PM Re: Innovations Over the Past 20 Years.
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Registered: 07/13/05
Posts: 338
Loc: New Hampshire
I think the KB stabilizer is a great invention. It is the easiest and most versatile stablizer I have ever used. Beavers to woodchucks, square traps are a snap to place and they are rock solid no matter the ground your setting on.
Dan smile

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#16263 - 06/28/10 06:24 AM Re: Innovations Over the Past 20 Years.
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A while back we had a thread about those little stinger springs. Remember someone from Canada posted pictures with Canada's $2 coin (tooney), for a size reference. Payscho(sp) maybe?, not sure? I'd like to see a picture of Marty's new spring gizmo.
smile

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#16264 - 06/28/10 07:13 AM Re: Innovations Over the Past 20 Years.
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I believe that these are what they are talkng about. I found them at the Snare Shop web site.
http://www.snareshop.com/shopping-cart.h...&category_id=64
Dan smile

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#16265 - 06/28/10 07:44 AM Re: Innovations Over the Past 20 Years.
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Maybe, but those springs are not preloaded. I would like to see how the preloading works.

Hal
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#16266 - 06/28/10 12:31 PM Re: Innovations Over the Past 20 Years.
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There are special pliers that you preload the spring with. I haven't had one in my hand so I can't tell you about the "release." I did see the stinger and pliers on video.

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#16267 - 06/29/10 06:18 AM Re: Innovations Over the Past 20 Years.
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Took a while but I found the other thread in the archives. From 2 1/2 years ago. I'm curious about how the release works on these little springs. smile


http://forum.sullivansline.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=6;t=000375;p=1#000005

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#27350 - 01/08/20 10:22 AM Re: Innovations Over the Past 20 Years. [Re: Hal]
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Dated for search.

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