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#17152 - 03/16/06 03:40 PM Use of Trail Cameras
WayneAmerica Offline
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Registered: 02/07/06
Posts: 56
Loc: Nebraska
I religiously use my trail camera for hunting and I swear by it. However, I'm curious if anyone has used a trail camera for trapping purposes and if so, whether it helped?

Thanks.

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#17153 - 03/17/06 09:50 AM Re: Use of Trail Cameras
NEbowhunter Offline
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Registered: 04/21/05
Posts: 574
Loc: Holdrege, Nebraska
hey Wayne,

Good to see some more nebraska folks.

Heres my take on the thread. Take it as you like cause its an opinion.

I think trail cameras are great for bowhunting for deer. They also cost alot to have a bunch of them out.

My school of thought is that i like to be able to read the sign that the animal leaves. I may set up 25 different locations in a year for cats and twice that for coyotes. that would be alot of moving the camera around or alot of cameras, alot of pictures of coons and skunks and opposums and deer and what ever.

I don't really like to frequent an area any more than i have to. If i'm going in to scout it out, then i'm in to set it up and check and then out. Probably not so much of a problem with cats, but coyotes will sure notice the increase in human activity. Coons leave a wad of sign. that should be easy enough to tell the tale if you are looking in the right spot. I think it would probably be easier to catch a mink in a trap than on camera. Not sure which animal you are after.

Probably enough babbling, but its like kids now days with the calculators. could any of them do long division if they're calculator broke? If i can read the sign thats there, I'll be good for anything i'm after.

thats my take.

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#17154 - 03/17/06 10:15 AM Re: Use of Trail Cameras
Hal Offline
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Loc: Blue Creek, Ohio, USA
I've never used a trail camera for anything, but…

You may be overlooking one of the fundamental differences between hunting and trapping. Hunting requires your timely physical presence in order to bag your quarry. You have to be right there, in proximity to the animal, to send a projectile at it.

Trapping does not require your immediate physical presence for a capture. You set the trap, and you come back and check it. So.. instead of setting up a camera, and then coming back to see if you have taken a picture of your target animal, why not set a trap, and just catch it? If you have to come and check the camera everyday, you might as well check a trap.

And if there are no animals there... well, the trap will tell you that just about as quickly as the camera will. And again, if you're dedicated to making a trip to check the the camera, why not check a trap?

smile -- Hal
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#17155 - 03/17/06 10:44 AM Re: Use of Trail Cameras
WayneAmerica Offline
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Registered: 02/07/06
Posts: 56
Loc: Nebraska
Thanks for the responses... I appreciate them.

I understand the need to be able to recognize sign and have found that to be overwhelmingly the case made in the few items on trapping I have read so far. Interestingly, they are signs I have always noticed but never really observed or studied.

As far as the camera, I really was thinking during the off-season (like now).

So, for trapping, trade in the camera for sign and results... I can handle that.

And Hal, if you've never used a trail camera, you're missing out. I rarely check mine daily, usually every couple weeks or so, and it's quite the reward when the animal you've photographed is the result of your hunt!

Thanks again.

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#17156 - 03/17/06 11:30 AM Re: Use of Trail Cameras
Claude Offline
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Registered: 10/30/05
Posts: 102
Loc: Freeman Missouri
I have never used a trail camera, and ain't quite sure how it operates. But if the animal has no way of detecting its presence (ie; flash, noise), I think it would be a great way to observe an animals behavior at the set.

I think it would also be a great way to catch a trap thief.

I'm all for learning traditional methods, but technology can also be useful in certain situations...

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#17157 - 03/17/06 12:29 PM Re: Use of Trail Cameras
Hal Offline
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Oh, offseason. Now I'm getting the picture. (Pun intended.)

I certainly don't see any harm in it.

As for catching trap thieves, I've thought about that angle myself but, how do you keep the thief from stealing your camera? -- especially at night. Do they work without a flash?

Like I said, I don't know anything about trail cameras -- educate me.

smile -- Hal
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#17158 - 03/17/06 12:38 PM Re: Use of Trail Cameras
Jim Ramsdell Offline
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Registered: 02/23/06
Posts: 29
Loc: Fairfield, Maine

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#17159 - 03/17/06 02:29 PM Re: Use of Trail Cameras
WayneAmerica Offline
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Registered: 02/07/06
Posts: 56
Loc: Nebraska
Great site Jim!

Some of the more expensive models might be flashless and the digital ones might not make much noise. I can't imagine catching ill human behavior, however... I think you'd just end up providing the idiot with a nice camera!

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#17160 - 03/17/06 04:41 PM Re: Use of Trail Cameras
archer01 Offline
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Registered: 03/25/05
Posts: 340
Loc: N.E. Penna.
I clicked on the site above and ,, If you watched the flash side show of the coyote eating at the white birch pile, That it did not appear to be frightened or run away after the flash of the camera. I was shocked !
I would of lost a pile of money if I was betting on that one.....
As a matter of fact, I almost replied earlier to this thread with a question of "wouldn't you think a coyote would be repelled by the flash"
Seams like I'm always learning.
I wish I had a night vision camera that would video a whole coyote catch.... right till you got there.... That'd be awesome.
and very educational.

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#17161 - 03/17/06 07:45 PM Re: Use of Trail Cameras
Kevin Upperman Offline
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Registered: 07/20/05
Posts: 73
Loc: PA
I think it would be neat to have one of the infrared video trail cams at a set, just to see how an animal truely works the set.

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#17162 - 03/19/06 08:55 AM Re: Use of Trail Cameras
trap jaw Offline
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Registered: 06/09/05
Posts: 430
Loc: Lancaster Co. Pennsylvania
I think it's a good tool to increase your understanding of animal behavior. The more we understand animal behavior, the better trappers we become.

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#17163 - 04/07/06 08:41 AM Re: Use of Trail Cameras
Otterwater0566 Offline
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Registered: 02/01/04
Posts: 440
Loc: Austin, AR
There are all kinds of trail cams avaiable-from flash to IR and others. Problem is the flash is easy for humans to see and the IR can be found by any thief with a cheap night vision device. If you're in an area with low risk of theft, these cams are great for watching critters work sets. Some cams have short video modes and can provide tips on why an animal may refuse to commit.

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#17164 - 04/12/06 04:57 AM Re: Use of Trail Cameras
hornhunter Offline
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Registered: 04/12/01
Posts: 24
Loc: Byron,Maine
Ever wonder if a fisher will avoid your traps?
Origially i was going to make a set with a smaller pole and steeper angle. This tree presented itself so i used it. Put the bait away from the trap just to see what the fisher does going through.

The set was make after the season so both frames are nailed to the tree.

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#17165 - 04/12/06 10:47 AM Re: Use of Trail Cameras
NEbowhunter Offline
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Registered: 04/21/05
Posts: 574
Loc: Holdrege, Nebraska
that is a sweet pic

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#17166 - 04/12/06 11:27 AM Re: Use of Trail Cameras
coonskinner89 Offline
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Registered: 10/22/05
Posts: 32
Loc: columbia county NY
Deer dont seem to be bothered by my trail cam. I have taken pictures of the same deer over and over.

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#17167 - 04/12/06 12:21 PM Re: Use of Trail Cameras
Jim Ramsdell Offline
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Registered: 02/23/06
Posts: 29
Loc: Fairfield, Maine
Hornhunter:
Fisher season ended on Dec. 31st 05' why do you still have a fisher set out??
I would think that for enforcement purposes any warden would still consider this a fully funtional "fisher set"

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#17168 - 04/12/06 04:11 PM Re: Use of Trail Cameras
hornhunter Offline
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Registered: 04/12/01
Posts: 24
Loc: Byron,Maine
Quote:
I would think that for enforcement purposes any warden would still consider this a fully funtional "fisher set
Both frames are nailed to the tree. Both frames are wired shut and the trap is a belisle and the safeties are not released. Also I believe if you expand this pic you'll see the cable hanging down on the right side of the tree. Trap was only placed there to see what a fisher would do with it.
I should have mentioned this in the first place.
This pic has been viewed my wardens and x wardens ( Skip Trask! ) in the past couple weeks.

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#17169 - 04/12/06 04:18 PM Re: Use of Trail Cameras
hornhunter Offline
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Registered: 04/12/01
Posts: 24
Loc: Byron,Maine
Picked up the flash card this afternoon and here's the results.
Placed some bait under the rock where the turkey is walking by. Ole coyote after 3 days doesn’t want nothing to do with it, or the flash spooked him. He never returned.




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#17170 - 04/12/06 06:29 PM Re: Use of Trail Cameras
FLSH ETR Offline
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Registered: 12/29/04
Posts: 961
Loc: Cudahy, Wisconsin,USA
We placed three trail cams in our deer hunting area, in hopes of snaggin' a pic of the deer that has left some huge prints throughout the area. Black bears ate two of the cams.(well almost-not much left to piece back together, with film gone) Beat the snot out of the trees that they were attached to also. Guess they just don't like being in the 'spotlight'. laugh Frank. cool
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#17171 - 04/12/06 11:15 PM Re: Use of Trail Cameras
Two Thumbs Offline
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Registered: 04/09/06
Posts: 12
Loc: UT
These are some great pics, how far off the trail/bait are you placing the camera?

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#17172 - 04/13/06 12:43 AM Re: Use of Trail Cameras
hornhunter Offline
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Registered: 04/12/01
Posts: 24
Loc: Byron,Maine
Bait is about 12 to 15 feet away.

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#17173 - 04/14/06 10:32 AM Re: Use of Trail Cameras
Hal Offline
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Registered: 07/17/00
Posts: 9951
Loc: Blue Creek, Ohio, USA
Lets keep this on track. If you have furbearers caught on camera, let's see 'em.

Otherwise, let's not.

Thanks.

smile -- Hal
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#17174 - 04/14/06 04:07 PM Re: Use of Trail Cameras
hornhunter Offline
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Registered: 04/12/01
Posts: 24
Loc: Byron,Maine
You got It Hal! The turkey one is showing the rock the bait is under. The deer one? Ok I got no excuse for! They are all from the same location.

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#17175 - 04/15/06 08:16 AM Re: Use of Trail Cameras
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Registered: 07/22/03
Posts: 2015
Loc: Qc.
A trail camera can be fun in the off season. I didn't know that I had a lynx around the house until I got it on film.

I set mine as a blind set on a trail.

Bears are known to be rough on them. That's one of the reasons why I blind set mine. There's also the fact that photos of ravens and turkey vultures get old real quick.

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#25403 - 10/17/17 12:35 PM Re: Use of Trail Cameras [Re: WayneAmerica]
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Dated for search.

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