#17263 - 04/23/06 08:39 PM
Re: Setting bodygrips on the ground?
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Registered: 01/02/06
Posts: 41
Loc: New brunswick
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Sure Musher, just because it is legal does not mean it makes good sense to set it there. Any trapper should avoid areas where people walk their dogs for instance. We always have to think of the possibility of losing trapping rights due to abusing the rights we currently have.
Around here, setting conibears on the ground for coon and fisher are important for most trappers. I would hate to lose the right to do that.
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#17264 - 04/23/06 09:12 PM
Re: Setting bodygrips on the ground?
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Registered: 04/12/03
Posts: 187
Loc: Northern Ohio
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A people that values its privileges above its principles soon loses both. Dwight D. Eisenhower
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#17266 - 04/23/06 10:15 PM
Re: Setting bodygrips on the ground?
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Registered: 05/10/05
Posts: 46
Loc: farmerville,la
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ric i totaly agree i would never set were i even thought i would catch someone pet or hunting dog thats common sense. i wouldn't even set a steel trap were i thought i would catch someones pet i am not that greedy that i have to take that chance.
but if i am down in a creek bottom several miles away from any homes on land were i know there shouldn't be any pets or hunting dogs i am gonna set my conibears.
were i trapped last year and were i plan on trapping this year i didn't see the first domestic track cat or dog
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#17267 - 04/23/06 10:41 PM
Re: Setting bodygrips on the ground?
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Registered: 04/01/06
Posts: 56
Loc: mn
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once again i echo offshore and i agree with u ric ... if im in a spot that im 100% sure i will not get a pet i will set. musher ic your point and i do agree with a few points of yours. u dont want to lose your rights as a trapper and i respect that. but we as trappers need to take a look in full of where , how , when we set. and looking over the wildlife , pets and people.
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#17268 - 05/03/06 10:26 AM
Re: Setting bodygrips on the ground?
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Registered: 01/16/06
Posts: 37
Loc: Verona, New York
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i myself have a hunting dog, (redbone COONHOUND).when you release your dog, who knows where the thing is going to go. you dont know if the dog is going to tree 2-3 miles away. and the last thing i feel like doing is walking around the woods looking for a dog that is in the trap that some irresponseable trapper placed in a trail or at the base of a tree or something.If you worked hard to to buy all your traps and the next time you went and checked your traps, they were all gone, i think you would be pretty ticked. The same thing goes for a great dog. I wouldn't feel like wasting a $4,000 dog.
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#17269 - 05/03/06 11:35 AM
Re: Setting bodygrips on the ground?
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Registered: 01/09/01
Posts: 552
Loc: Erie, IL
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Kingcooner, I am surprised that your occupation is trapping with that post. I guess I am and probably a lot of other trappers on here irresponsible, because those of us who can use these type of traps have probably put them in trails and at the base of trees. After all the idea is to put them on location. I can honestly say I have never caught a dog in a bg, and will not use this trap if I think there is even a remote chance of a dog there, however how can anyone know where a dog is going to end up. Most land I trap I can use these and do at most although some are too risky and I don't set these. Are you ticked at the person who has permission on this land to legally trap? or ticked at the fact of a dog was caught. I could understand the second one but not the first. My boys also have a redbone and he is a great dog. he is scared of nothing and can run like the wind. All this for only 200$. Now we all have had traps lifted and this ticks you off at the scum who done it even though you don't know who. I know there are people who use these traps carelessly and will probably be part of the reason they try to put them out of use. The way you made it sound though is anyone who uses these in trails or at the base of trees are irresponsible. Trails are the places where these traps work great, and rogue trees can be great spots too. I'm sure most trappers out there don't want to catch anyones dog even if they have permission to trap on this land but you or your dog don't have permiision to hunt.
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#17271 - 05/03/06 11:37 PM
Re: Setting bodygrips on the ground?
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Registered: 12/09/00
Posts: 317
Loc: Anchorage, AK
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Ric, I once heard a rumor of an ethical lawyer, but it could not be confirmed. :-)
When I was in high school and college I trapped in central Ohio. Trapping season largely coincided with hunting season, and lots of guys hunted with dogs. It would not have been safe or ethical, even if it had been legal, to use a 330 or 220 on land in any of the places I trapped.
Up here, it's legal to use 330s on land wherever it's legal to trap. But the consequence of a few trappers not using common sense has been the loss of trapping entirely in the Anchorage area.
Incidentally, I recall a couple incidents where a dog killed in a 330 made the local news. In both cases, the trap was set where it was illegal to trap at all. So another law (prohibiting 330s) wouldn't have made a difference.
Jim
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