I spend a couple weeks a few miles south of Hal's camp. At one of the social events at a neighbor's camp. A young fella was expounding how he thought that the danger of "black ice" was much over stated. After all with his truck he could drive on it like it was a warm, dry roadway. Over all a prevailing point of view in the south from how I have seen people drive down there during some pretty scary road conditions. Honestly, anymore I stay in and let Darwin sort them out. The majority just have no concept on how to deal with bad road conditions