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#25843 - 02/12/18 05:54 PM Re: 2017 Deer Antler growth. [Re: redsnow]
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Here's one of the best daytime pictures. The deer look healthy mid-February, that's a good sign.



I'm sure this is part of the herd that ran off the day I checked my camera. But notice the number of fawns in the group, notice the little round head on the fawn in the bottom right corner.

My brother-in-laws hunt a property, about 1/2 mile west of this camera. All together there are 5 or 6 guys that hunt that property. They are "selective" about the buck deer they shoot. I talked to one of them the other day, all together they killed 16 female deer, zero bucks, during the 2017 season. I know of 2 more adult female deer harvested near this camera above. For a total of 18 breeders, all taken within 2 miles of each other. That's just the deer that I'm positive that were taken, I'm sure there were more.

If you read that one post above from the DNR about the deer kill, if you read between the lines, we just don't have the deer. I'll make a prediction now, in this county, our 2018 deer kill will be down another 10 or 15%, compared to the 2017 harvest. We shall see.

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#25859 - 02/18/18 10:38 AM Re: 2017 Deer Antler growth. [Re: redsnow]
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Note to self. Changed batteries on mountain camera 2/17/18. Notice the hawk behind the 2 buzzards, looks like he's standing his ground. Seems like when the batteries died, I was only getting 1 picture per day, if it was warm. We'll get some pictures on this camera, next check.


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#25863 - 02/19/18 12:40 PM Re: 2017 Deer Antler growth. [Re: redsnow]
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The same picture as above, just zoomed in a little bit.


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#25864 - 02/19/18 12:48 PM Re: 2017 Deer Antler growth. [Re: redsnow]
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#25865 - 02/19/18 05:04 PM Re: 2017 Deer Antler growth. [Re: redsnow]
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Those are freakin' black vultures. They are not strictly carrion eaters. They are predatory as well. Bad news birds. When my neighbor's goats were dropping kids last spring, there were three of those black vultures perched in a tree nearby. I kept my eye on them.

When I was in Tennessee I had a couple of eagles on my gut pile. I guess eagles and buzzards do not get along because when the eagles were there, the buzzards were not to be found.
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#25873 - 02/22/18 11:31 AM Re: 2017 Deer Antler growth. [Re: redsnow]
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Hal,

I agree and disagree. Black vultures do not strictly eat carrion. However, those are not black vultures. Those are turkey vultures. The primary feathers of a black vulture's wing are white/gray and their secondary's are black. As you can see from Redsnow's picture, the pink line I drew is where the white/gray would end on the black vulture.




Below is a picture of a turkey vulture that I took when I was testing out a new lens on my camera.



And here is a stock photo of a black vulture. I cant seem to find a pic of one that I have taken for some reason. They're somewhere.... but you get the idea.


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#25875 - 02/22/18 01:54 PM Re: 2017 Deer Antler growth. [Re: redsnow]
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My bad. That's a good identifying feature. Thanks.
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#25876 - 02/26/18 06:08 AM Re: 2017 Deer Antler growth. [Re: redsnow]
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Very good. I'll tell you what I used for bait at that camera, it was a bucket full of chicken peeps. Maybe 20#, they were frozen into a clump when I dumped them out. In about the same spot where the hawk is sitting, there's nothing but fuzz there now.

The local vet and I talked about these black vultures when they were first noticed in this area. For anyone not following along with the discussion, what these things will do, they'll find a newborn calf, or lamb or kid goat "unattended" out in a pasture, and basically pick it apart, and eat it alive. I'm sure they'd do the same thing with fawn deer.

Momma walks off to feed or get a drink of water, they'll swoop in, and go to work on the little critter. Doc was telling me about a local farmer, I think the man lost 8 or 10 calves that one season, to black vultures. That sure would suck!

I checked the camera at Wardney's salt lick yesterday, 100 and some pics in 2 weeks time. I still have one spike buck that has his antlers.


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#25877 - 02/26/18 06:12 AM Re: 2017 Deer Antler growth. [Re: redsnow]
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#25878 - 02/26/18 02:13 PM Re: 2017 Deer Antler growth. [Re: redsnow]
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So I take the four hour ride to the camp, but see nothing but deer tracks. Then I come home to see this in my back yard!

Funny how nature works.
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