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#25705 - 12/31/17 04:05 AM Statistically impossible!
archeryguy Offline
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Registered: 12/06/12
Posts: 6
Loc: New York
I own and trap on a 180 acre property. While targeting coyotes I have now caught 11 red fox since Nov. 1st.... all within about 200 yards of each other. All 11 were males...not one female. They ranged from this years pups to fully mature fox.

How is this possible? I can't seem to come up with a reasonable explanation. 9 were in dirt holes, 2 in flat sets.


Edited by archeryguy (12/31/17 04:06 AM)

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#25707 - 12/31/17 05:58 AM Re: Statistically impossible! [Re: archeryguy]
musher Online   content


Registered: 07/22/03
Posts: 2036
Loc: Qc.
Count your blessings and pull your traps. Your breeding female is possibly still around and she's a keeper!

You could also be in a natural travel way. You have an excellent location that is catching dispersing fox.

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#25710 - 12/31/17 08:59 AM Re: Statistically impossible! [Re: musher]
Hal Offline
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Registered: 07/17/00
Posts: 9982
Loc: Blue Creek, Ohio, USA
Originally Posted By: musher
... natural travel way. You have an excellent location that is catching dispersing fox.


That would be my guess too.
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#25711 - 12/31/17 09:04 AM Re: Statistically impossible! [Re: archeryguy]
archeryguy Offline
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Registered: 12/06/12
Posts: 6
Loc: New York
Won't pull my traps. Its the only property I trap and there is lots of coyote sign even though I have already caught 5 this year. I'll just release any reds..

I might add that I have one of the last private holdings within the Allegany State Park in WNY. This 100 square mile State Park (65,000 acres) is closed to all trapping so my property tends to have the ability to pull and hold predators from other areas to fill the void.


Edited by archeryguy (12/31/17 09:21 AM)

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#25712 - 12/31/17 01:59 PM Re: Statistically impossible! [Re: archeryguy]
Ric Offline


Registered: 07/22/00
Posts: 3669
Loc: Wellington,OH=USA
I going with the travel way/dispersal route also. It's that time of year, Love is in the air. Male will be moving much more than females

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#26469 - 01/14/19 06:13 AM Re: Statistically impossible! [Re: archeryguy]
Dogleg Offline
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Registered: 09/29/17
Posts: 6
Loc: Saskatchewan
It isnt random chance; something in your technique is spooking the females. Id consider your lure or urine use.

A similar case is with martens. Around here people mostly use tree mounted boxes and body grips. The catch is almost all males. The theories people come up with are enough to start eye rolling contests and fistfights; but it doesnt change that females either are scared by the box or lure, or don't like climbing, or are prone to evading trigger wires. The males are more aggressive. Put the box on the ground and use less aggressive lures and the females start getting caught. Mice start eating them too; but I digress.

Most people prefer catching the males and leaving the breeding stock for next years crop; so little experimenting is done.

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