Ric, I'm scared of that log jam. It appears to be a surface jam, only about six feet on the right side is fairly open with one large log across it. I threw a couple of good sized sticks out into the current and they got pulled under the main part of the log jam pretty hard and fast. Its probably 30 to 50 feet wide at water level, I don't know as I want to chance surviving that ride. My problem is the few otter(6) I've targeted on purpose were secondary dam cross overs and 2 places they were cutting cross country to cut across a creek curve. This area I am lost with. I've several things in mind, if they work, I'm a genius, if they don't, you'll never hear about them .
. Win, lose or draw I'll learn something. I do appreciate your advice. Thanks, Richard