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#28908 - 03/05/24 11:07 AM Re: 2024 Work Force. [Re: FLSH ETR]
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Originally Posted By: FLSH ETR
$15 a month is a year long commitment. What's going to happen when sharpening ice skates goes down the same summer road as trapping?


This is Quebec. Hockey never really stops!

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#28910 - 03/06/24 01:59 PM Re: 2024 Work Force. [Re: redsnow]
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I've never been on ice skates, looks like it'd be a fun skill to know.

I've been reading about skates, sharpening, skating and all.

I think hockey skate blades are "hollow ground", some of them anyway. So each skate blade would have 2 edges, inside and outside. I think to help you turn, stop or slow down and all.

If the numbers above are correct. Let's keep it all simple math, so we can do it in our head.

Grandson's initial investment was $1,400. After he uses up the first grindstone on the machine, he will have taken in $300, at $5 per pair. At 60 pair of skates.

Give or take, he's going to need to invest another $600 in grindstones. Just say $2,000 total investment. At $5 per pair of skates, he'll need to sharpen 400 pair, to actually see a profit.

My opinion, before I buy any kind of tool or machine, I'm going to check the price of parts and accessories. You might buy the machine cheap, and then the parts you need will eat you up.

But for Grandson, he should check, maybe he can find sharpening wheels in a 3-pack. Or by the dozen cheaper?

I found a place online the other day, they charged $6 per pair to sharpen skates, if they were dropped off. $8 if you waited to have them sharpened. That article was dated, 2018.

Grandson might be able to invest some of his "score keeping" money toward his loan, and get that paid off. Then the young man can keep his $5 per sharpening. Good experience.

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#28911 - 03/06/24 02:22 PM Re: 2024 Work Force. [Re: redsnow]
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Good ideas. Remember that the loan is interest free!

At $15 a month it will take him forever to pay off.

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#28912 - 03/06/24 07:19 PM Re: 2024 Work Force. [Re: musher]
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Originally Posted By: musher
I misunderstood.

Grandson charges $5 to sharpen a pair of skates. He has to give his father one dollar per pair he sharpens. (That is where the $15 month idea comes in.)

The sharpening disc is good for 60 pairs. About $1.75 per pair. However, he has to buy the disc and pay for it prior to sharpening. He is still on his first disc.

The machine costs $1400. It's going to take some time to make money or a lot more skates to be sharpened.


Something still isn't adding up. A quick google search turned up a "Howe" skate sharpening wheel for $33. Others for under $20. Even with the $33 model, 60 pairs of skates equals 55 cents a unit. Where does the $1.75 come in?
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#28913 - 03/06/24 09:47 PM Re: 2024 Work Force. [Re: redsnow]
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Dad is gone back home. I'll try to find out. Grandson is still here. I'll ask him - if he knows!

But we are talking Canuck bucks. $33 is a lot more in our dollars. Add in customs or whatever. Perhaps "Howe" doesn't fit his machine or is not a reputable brand?

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#28914 - 03/07/24 11:19 AM Re: 2024 Work Force. [Re: redsnow]
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I didn't get much out of my grandson. He talked about numbers (fractions) and specific discs for his machine. I'm guessing Dad got the whole package when he purchased the sharpener.

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#28915 - 03/09/24 12:44 PM Re: 2024 Work Force. [Re: redsnow]
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I'm just curious, but I've watched 4 or 5 "skate sharpening" videos, I just like to know how things work. If I'm not mistaken, some skate blades are only 1/10th of an inch wide. So, if you're cutting a groove down the middle, that doesn't leave much room for error.

In the one video, the man running the machine took a black marker and inked the surface of the blade. Just to see that it had all been sharpened, ink ground off.

One thing that I thought was interesting, they asked a skilled hockey player to try 4 different pairs of skate blades, and pick his favorite. They were all the same brand, but different styles. He said that 2 styles made him feel sluggish and worked his legs twice as hard, for his style of skating. He did pick one that in his opinion was best for what he needed.

One thing for sure, before anyone would just go out and buy a pair of skates, you'd better ask the pros.

But skating does look like it would be a fun and interesting skill to know.

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#28949 - 04/03/24 01:33 PM Re: 2024 Work Force. [Re: redsnow]
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Here at work one of my salesmen stops by every Monday, to see if I need anything and take my order. He owns an auto parts store, they sell to the public and also sells wholesale to garages and smaller stores.

I buy stuff like motor oil, antifreeze, brake fluid, jumper cables and batteries. He and I were talking last Monday, he said I've got three delivery guys, all 3 of them called in sick today. I said It sounds like all 3 of them are going to be looking for a new job. He just said, they'd better have a good excuse!

You know for a small business, when 3 of your employees call in sick, that will really put you in a bind. If you've got a mechanic that's charging $50 or $100 per hour, and he's waiting on a starter or fan belt or a set of wheel bearings, that's not good.

Anyway, I talked to him again Monday of this week, I asked how things went with the delivery guys, he said, We've got a new man starting today.

The 3 delivery guys didn't work hard and most of it was seat time. He told me that they'd drive around all day, in someone else's vehicle, with someone else's gas. Those 3 young guys left their boss and his business in a big time bind.

There is a big difference working for a bigger company, with 25 employees or so. Three or four folks can take the day off and nobody will miss you. When you're working for an outfit with only 6 or 8 people and half the crew doesn't show up for work, that's not good.

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