#29183 - 02/26/25 02:10 PM
Re: snow
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Thinking, I'm sure pulling a pallet with extra weight is hard pulling for a snow machine. I'm not sure how big the pallet is, or how much weight you added? 50 # ?
That's probably not many PSI's on the snow. Curious, how deep did your machine sink, on the first pass? I'm sure that would vary with your speed too.
(I watched a video the other day, someone was on a snow machine, on lake ice. Another guy was there with a radar-gun. You could hear that engine screaming, and his machine was just a speck, off maybe 1/4 mile away? About that time the machine streaked past, and I think it regestered 138 MPH. That's crazy!)
One thing I was thinking about using to compact your trails, is a yard roller. I was thinking about making one using a 55 gallon drum, a 2" iron pipe for the axel. You'd need to make some kind of Y-type yoke to attach to your Skidoo. I was thinking about starting with 150 pounds of sand in the barrel to start. If you can pull that, maybe add another 100 # of sand.
I've got everything I'd need on the farm to make such a roller. Probably take me 2 or 3 hours?
Do a search: Yard roller or lawn roller. Honestly, they are not that expensive. If I'd make one, I'd have half that much in the price, not counting my time.
But if something like that would work for you, you'd be able to open your trails with just one pass. Maybe?
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#29186 - 02/28/25 12:55 AM
Re: snow
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No, a barrel roller like I described wouldn't help you level out the snow. An empty barrel would float, but the way you've described that snow it was very fluffy.
If your machine was sinking a foot or 2, that was putting a strain in the engine to start with, plus trying to pull something. I wouldn't want to do that day after day, the engine would blow for sure!
Thinking about all of the different types/styles of drags that I've watched farmers use. Keep in mind this is big and heavy equipment, made to pull, with lots of torque. I've seen drags made from stuff like bridge planks, railroad cross-ties, I-beams and even railroad rails. I've seen a few that were just a big heavy chain. You'd still need some type of "yoke", but all of these were used more or less just to level out the high spots.
Once in a blue moon, you'll see someone out pulling a yard roller with their lawn mower. I've seen them made from a barrel, filled with concrete, like I described above. Others made from an old hot water tank. I've seen a couple yard rollers made from the roller of a big belt sanding machine, those things are solid steel. About all one man can do to pick up one end of the thing. Something like that, you'd never budge it with a snow mobile.
I'm not sure how it'd work, you'd need some kind of "yoke"/spreader deal. It's possible something like a set of tire chains, behind your machine would both help pack, level and even out things.
Or, it might be best to just drag a pallet. lol. Carry on.
I'll be thinking.
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#29187 - 03/02/25 02:08 PM
Re: snow
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While we're talking about snow, I'll add this little tidbit.
A while back my brother bought a dumptruck with a snow blade. The truck itself is a 2wd F350, with dual wheels. Three or 4 months ago, brother and I were talking, I told him to get one of the guys out there to help him get the blade mounted. The brand of the blade is: Western, seems to be well built and heavy. I had a set of tire chains that he can make fit. Then he bought a set of triple-chains, they are wimpy and were still $200.
Anyway, he's got 6 or 8 ton of limestone chips in the dump bed, the blade is mounted, chains ready if he needs them. He's got the truck parked at the upper shed, pointed toward the road, ready to go.
I walked by the truck the other week, the first thing I noticed, it doesn't have much ground clearance. I looked at it, sitting on level ground with the blade up, it has about 5 inches of clearance. That's not much.
My brother is a poultry grower, and he needs to keep his road to the chicken houses in decent shape. I mean if the birds need feed, they need feed. The farm lane goes down around the side of the ridge for about a 1/2 mile. Like about all farm lanes, it has a little high spot or crown between the tire tracks. He told me the other day that it'll beat you pieces, just going down the lane. The blade mount will catch every hump and water-break you cross.
The blade and mount are just too heavy for the 2 wheel drive F350.
On a paved road or parking lot it'd be ideal. With the weigt on the back and a set of chains, it would flip a lot of snow. Anyway, something you want to keep in mind before you'd buy a snow blade.
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#29189 - 03/02/25 11:26 PM
Re: snow
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I will check, most of our DOH snow trucks are 4WD. I know the town has a couple FWD trucks too. Not positive, but we also have a couple 2WD dump trucks, with spreader beds, the old green ones.
Like here in town, this town isn't level by any means. But with 8 or 10 tons of salt/gravel and chains going down Chipley Lane, it'll do the job. If you stay on it.
The DOH also has road graders, 6 wheel drive, they are tough when you've got chains on all 6.
I have a 4wd farm tractor, with a bucket and drag blade, I've used it a little bit this winter. Not sure exactly what it weighs? The back tires are filled with fluid. It does a good job. It's a 40 hp Kabota, if you lock the back axel together, something is going to go.
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#29190 - 03/03/25 03:19 PM
Re: snow
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I'll add a little bit more. My brother found this F350 online. When he bought it, it had a salt/spreader bed, and the snow blade, all in one deal. The truck was owned by a hospital, in southern Virginia. The blade still has the paint on it, so it's never been used much.
I assume they only used the truck, just to keep their driveways and parking lots cleaned off. On a mostly level and paved parking lot, with not much snow to start with, and a load of salt, it would work good.
I just talked to my parts man, he told me that you can buy extra leaf springs, and probably lift up the frame another 2 inches. I think the parts would be around $200. Another 2 inches of ground clearance would take care of the high spots in the farm lane.
I'll run that past my brother, that's up to him. It seems like a nice pretty nice little dumper. But he's thinking about buying a 4wd dump truck.
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