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#4179 - 12/06/05 01:54 PM Trapping in deep snow?
Andy M Offline
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Registered: 11/22/04
Posts: 33
Loc: Lacona, NY
At what point do you give up trapping fox or coyote in the snow? I live up on the Tughill region of NY and we get 200" of snow easy over the course of winter. Right now the snow is about a foot deep, with more falling as I type. What types of sets do you use in deeper snow? Thanks!

Andy

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#4180 - 12/06/05 04:31 PM Re: Trapping in deep snow?
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Registered: 07/22/03
Posts: 2063
Loc: Qc.
Snares.

Unless you can find a windblown or protected area foothold trap maintenane gets to be a real chore once winter sets in. Your trap is not in operation as often as it should be.

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#4181 - 12/06/05 08:37 PM Re: Trapping in deep snow?
Andy M Offline
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Registered: 11/22/04
Posts: 33
Loc: Lacona, NY
Thanks for the input! Unfortunately we are not allowed to use snares in NY. Sounds like I'll have to either find an area that doesn't have deep snow, or call it a season until next year.

Thanks again! laugh

Andy

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#4182 - 12/06/05 09:22 PM Re: Trapping in deep snow?
RiverOtter Offline
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Registered: 02/27/05
Posts: 646
Loc: Monashee Mtns, British Columbi...
Depending on your time constraints, you could run less traps and deal with resetting to keep up with snowfalls. I don't know what your snowfalls are like, but where I live it often snows lots for a couple days and then may not snow again for a week or more. Its all up to you, but the snow doesn't have to stop you from trapping if you are willing to change your techniques.

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#4183 - 12/07/05 05:05 PM Re: Trapping in deep snow?
archer01 Offline
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Registered: 03/25/05
Posts: 340
Loc: N.E. Penna.
Canines will take a easy path.
Try making some human trails, Walk a route you think they'd use, then make your set right in your own path behind you.
This can be easy with plasic sandwich bags or wax paper.
You still need to check often, cause the sun can expose your trap. Works good on fox, I haven had it work on coyotes yet, but it should.

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#4184 - 12/08/05 11:22 AM Re: Trapping in deep snow?
chuckieo Offline
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Registered: 11/03/05
Posts: 167
Loc: Stoneboro, Pennsylvania
RiverOtter and Archer are right.I too run less traps and mantain them properly.Fox will run in 4 wheel drive tracks or even your own tracks in deep snow like Archer said.I have been experimenting with buckwheat hulls as a trap covering in the snow.Read Hal's Canine 2000 or Russ Carman's book winter fox trapping for some ideas.

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#4185 - 12/08/05 12:02 PM Re: Trapping in deep snow?
Andy M Offline
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Registered: 11/22/04
Posts: 33
Loc: Lacona, NY
Thanks for the tips guys! I have been driving my pick-up through the snow to get to my traps, so I could give that a try. I have Russ' winter fox trapping book, but the photos show only about 6-8 inches of snow. Where I live the snow will easily get waist deep, which will make for tough driving let alone walking through. I don't have a wheeler or a sled, but the wheeler is on my wish list. Guess I'd better break out the snow shoes! lol!! Thanks again for the help! I'll keep you posted!

Andy

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#4186 - 12/08/05 12:33 PM Re: Trapping in deep snow?
phutch36 Offline
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Registered: 06/17/05
Posts: 136
Loc: MT
also try snowshoeing thru areas that they hunt and find a narow area and put in some blind sets in the snow shoe trail. Or put in a bait station if legal and snowshoe a wagon wheel of trail radiating from the bait and set the trails.Use dry snow as a cover and wx paper below the trap and over the trap.

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#4187 - 12/08/05 03:45 PM Re: Trapping in deep snow?
CoonCaller Offline
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Registered: 10/29/03
Posts: 240
Loc: Formerly NY, now TN
I know its not really trapping related but once the snow starts adding up and shuts down my sets I switch to calling, most animals will be hungry by then and an easy sounding meal might just be the ticket to keep the fur coming while still enjoying the great outdoors

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#4188 - 12/08/05 10:45 PM Re: Trapping in deep snow?
RiverOtter Offline
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Registered: 02/27/05
Posts: 646
Loc: Monashee Mtns, British Columbi...
I have one idea you may want to try. I use a quad and sled on my line, but your truck could be used the same way. Along my trail, if I see a good backing for a flat set, like a rotten stump for example, I will run my quad off the trail and leave a track about 6-10" away from the backing. I continue past the backing and then park and walk back in the track and make my set. The advantage to this is my trap is off the main trail and the critter has an easy walk to the lure still. When I backtrack, I stay on the main trail and all thats left is a little arc to the side. Anyone else coming along, will almost always take the straight through trail and my trap will remain intact. After a snowfall, I will lift my trap, drive past the backing and reset my trap.

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#4189 - 12/09/05 01:09 AM Re: Trapping in deep snow?
Dusty Offline
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Registered: 12/15/00
Posts: 420
Loc: North Pole, Alaska, USA
I don't know how to trap without snow. I have 3 feet or so on most of my line now, will have close to 6 feet of settled snow by spring, more in the drifts.

I have Interior AK powder, so it may be nothing like the mush I've seen in the lower 48/coastal AK. I'm also below freezing - WAY below freezing - from a month or two before I set till mid-March.

First, forget everything you've ever heard about what fox and coyotes can and can't do, bedding traps, etc. Find a set of tracks and follow them - except for a couple days after a big dump, they get along just fine wherever they want to go (although they will stick to easy trails, especially if you provide one going about where they want to go anyway). You're not going to get a trap bedded solid in snow, and if you do it'll be the only solid thing out there. I usually set on a couple of small spruce branches, but I've been known to just huck a trap out and let it set where it lays.

Unless you have thawing temps, get rid of the wax paper. It's a pain to work with (but necessary if you're dealing with freeze/thaw). Paper towels work much better. They're easier to go on, look a lot like snow, hold a thin covering better, and don't wad up a big gob of snow that can prevent a trap from catching on like wax paper or plastic does. Wax paper or plastic under the trap will only make a nice iceblock - give the water somewhere to drain.

When you cover traps, don't disturb the snow - I use a big BBQ spatula - or it'll set up. With good fluffy powder, you can catch a fox with a trap under 6" or so of snow. Keep your covers thin - I seldom cover fox traps at all (but, from what I understand, the fox in AK are slightly suicidal). Coyote traps get maybe 1/4" cover.

RO's trick catches me a lot of fur. It works on snowshoes as well as a snogo. I generally set the trap right in my trail, but putting it off the trail should work if you have others in the area.

Go set some traps, and follow some tracks. Let the critters tell you what works and what doesn't.

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#4190 - 12/12/05 07:42 AM Re: Trapping in deep snow?
Andy M Offline
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Registered: 11/22/04
Posts: 33
Loc: Lacona, NY
Thanks for the tips guys!! I have been giving it some thought about placing some trail sets in the tire tracks I made with the truck. One thing I know would be a great avenue for fox or coyote travel is the snowmobile trail that crosses my property. The down side would be that other people would be passing right by my sets at all hours of the day, and that may lead to either my traps being stolen or the animals begin inhumanely dispatched. Away, I do have some other areas I can set up in!

Thanks again for the help!

Andy

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#21762 - 12/13/14 11:41 AM Re: Trapping in deep snow? [Re: Andy M]
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