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#4925 - 04/17/06 06:58 PM bodygrip regulation -- 220 6 feet above ground
Straatmann Offline
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Registered: 03/27/06
Posts: 22
Loc: missouri
In my state a 220 conibear has to be set 6 feet up off the ground. How would i go about setting a set like that?......and where do i put the bait?thanks in advance.

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#4926 - 04/17/06 08:50 PM Re: bodygrip regulation -- 220 6 feet above ground
Dale F Offline
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Registered: 01/09/01
Posts: 552
Loc: Erie, IL
What are you wanting to catch?

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#4927 - 04/18/06 08:40 PM Re: bodygrip regulation -- 220 6 feet above ground
Straatmann Offline
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Registered: 03/27/06
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Loc: missouri
I'm trying to catch racoons.

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#4928 - 04/18/06 09:47 PM Re: bodygrip regulation -- 220 6 feet above ground
Mr. Otter Offline
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Registered: 04/13/06
Posts: 93
Loc: South Carolina
I think you should re think the use of 220s In trees 6' off the ground.I find It hard enough to get coons to commit to ground type cubbies let alone getting them to climb a tree to get In one.
There must be other options you can pursue.

Otter

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#4929 - 04/19/06 06:34 AM Re: bodygrip regulation -- 220 6 feet above ground
Dale F Offline
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Loc: Erie, IL
I don't use cubbies or buckets anymore, but I bet it is fun to stabilze one in a tree. Is this a new law?

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#4930 - 04/19/06 08:19 AM Re: bodygrip regulation -- 220 6 feet above ground
Hal Offline
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Registered: 07/17/00
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Loc: Blue Creek, Ohio, USA
Dose this law apply to 220 Dukes, Bridgers, and other manufacturer's bodygrip traps, or just to 220 Conibears®?

quest -- Hal
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#4931 - 04/19/06 04:43 PM Re: bodygrip regulation -- 220 6 feet above ground
Straatmann Offline
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Registered: 03/27/06
Posts: 22
Loc: missouri
Here is the Missouri state code:
(A)No Conibear-type trap with a jaw spread greater than 5 inches shall be set in any dry land set.
(B)Conibear-type traps with a jaw spread not greater than eight inches may be set six feet or more above ground level in buildings.

A 220 conibear is 7 by 7 so can any one help me with this?

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#4932 - 04/19/06 05:07 PM Re: bodygrip regulation -- 220 6 feet above ground
Dale F Offline
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Loc: Erie, IL
A 220 would fall into category "B". I would look at using footholds if you are wanting to trap coons, or do they have to be above ground too? If you can't use at least a 160 bg on dryland, I wouldn't plan on trapping many coon with bodygrips. Whats the law state for bg over 8"?

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#4933 - 04/19/06 05:54 PM Re: bodygrip regulation -- 220 6 feet above ground
Hal Offline
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The law actually does say Conibear-type!

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#4934 - 04/19/06 06:01 PM Re: bodygrip regulation -- 220 6 feet above ground
Straatmann Offline
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Registered: 03/27/06
Posts: 22
Loc: missouri
the footholds can be set on the ground, and according to the wildlife code book conibears greater than 8inches are the same as category B.

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#4935 - 04/19/06 07:43 PM Re: bodygrip regulation -- 220 6 feet above ground
Mike McChurin Offline
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Registered: 12/03/02
Posts: 497
Loc: NE Oklahoma
I guess you could try a "leaning pole set" like they make for fisher and marten.

But, like mr. Otter said, you are going to have a heck of a time getting coons to commit.

You can go to all the trouble of a leaning pole set. Or you could try 120's, but they aren't really recommended for coons.

Or, go with a foothold. That seems to be the easiest (and probably most productive) legal option.

Don't get too upset. I would kill to have trapping regulations like they have in MO.

Mike

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#4936 - 04/19/06 10:37 PM Re: bodygrip regulation -- 220 6 feet above ground
coon killer Offline
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Registered: 04/01/06
Posts: 56
Loc: mn
yes i echo what otter says ... it will be hard to get coons in any kind of bucket sets above the ground ... i think foot holds would be your best choice for coons in your state

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#4937 - 04/19/06 11:07 PM Re: bodygrip regulation -- 220 6 feet above ground
RiverOtter Offline
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Loc: Monashee Mtns, British Columbi...
Quote:
(B)Conibear-type traps with a jaw spread not greater than eight inches may be set six feet or more above ground level in buildings.

Reading that sounds like a tree would not be legal.

RO smile

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#4938 - 04/20/06 08:18 AM Re: bodygrip regulation -- 220 6 feet above ground
Mr. Otter Offline
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Registered: 04/13/06
Posts: 93
Loc: South Carolina
Please explain to us why you have this fixsation with the 220.
If I were to coon trap I would get In the water with some 1 1/2 coils on drowners and catch a load It's easy and you don't have to worry about catching to many non traget animals.
If you want to trap coon on dry land the same trap will work and you can release any non target animal with no harm done to It. If you want to go one step farther use some of the dog proof traps.

Otter

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#4939 - 04/20/06 04:37 PM Re: bodygrip regulation -- 220 6 feet above ground
bobkat Offline
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Registered: 04/17/05
Posts: 113
Loc: Ruckersville, Va
RBG makes a 5"square body grip that I have seen guys posting about using on coon in buckets successfully. Wildlife Control Services has them as well as others.

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#4940 - 04/22/06 12:01 PM Re: bodygrip regulation -- 220 6 feet above ground
coon killer Offline
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Registered: 04/01/06
Posts: 56
Loc: mn
mr. otter whats wrong with useing 220 for coons? there very productive if used at the right time and spot. coilspring are of course productive but a mixture of both is key.

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#4941 - 04/22/06 12:41 PM Re: bodygrip regulation -- 220 6 feet above ground
Mr. Otter Offline
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Posts: 93
Loc: South Carolina
Well we can't use any body gripping traps on dry land down here. But I bet it would be a dog killer If It was set on dry land where you have multiple use. Looks like a good way to lose your trapping rights.
That must be why several states have restriced the use of large body gripping traps On dry land.

Otter

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#4942 - 04/22/06 01:07 PM Re: bodygrip regulation -- 220 6 feet above ground
Dale F Offline
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Registered: 01/09/01
Posts: 552
Loc: Erie, IL
I agree and disagree with Mr Otter, bodygrips don't discriminate, although used in the right places you can catch some big quality coons with these. Most of my landowners let me use them, and there is a few who don't. I always ask about dogs or any pets and if these are okay to use. Some landowners want the dogs gone too if they are out there and shouldn't be. I will not set these even with permission if I feel there is a chance for a domestic animal to be caught. This is where footholds come in. Using caution and a little sense, you can set numbers of these out and still sleep at night. To me, these are the best way to harvest coon and stay out of water.

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#4943 - 04/22/06 01:15 PM Re: bodygrip regulation -- 220 6 feet above ground
Jim Ramsdell Offline
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Registered: 02/23/06
Posts: 29
Loc: Fairfield, Maine
I get a few (2-4) coon in my fisher pole sets every year. (with 220's) In my state these have to be 4' off the ground. I can imagine if I targeted coon with this type of set I could grab a dozen or more. Coon will commit to these sets and usually the larger boars at that.

Jim

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#4944 - 04/22/06 02:50 PM Re: bodygrip regulation -- 220 6 feet above ground
Mr. Otter Offline
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Registered: 04/13/06
Posts: 93
Loc: South Carolina
Wouldn't 160s work and be less of a threat to someones dog?
We are getting a bit off track here,the man can't use 160s or 220s on the ground.

Otter

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#4945 - 04/22/06 03:15 PM Re: bodygrip regulation -- 220 6 feet above ground
BruceT Offline
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Registered: 04/21/06
Posts: 26
Loc: Northern Maine
I would never use anything bigger then a 120 conibear on the ground.Last I knew hunting dogs did not know how to read posted signs and sometimes get miles away onto posted land no matter how hard we try to not allow this to happen.We all need to share these woods and get along with each other meaning trappers and hound hunters or we will lose it all to the anti's.Even a rabbit dog can get away onto posted land sometimes and it would be a shame to see it get killed in a conibear on the ground.I'd go with the footholds on the ground.

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#4946 - 04/22/06 10:49 PM Re: bodygrip regulation -- 220 6 feet above ground
Dale F Offline
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Registered: 01/09/01
Posts: 552
Loc: Erie, IL
I've yet to catch a dog, use common sense and it won't happen.

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#4947 - 04/23/06 01:37 AM Re: bodygrip regulation -- 220 6 feet above ground
coon killer Offline
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Registered: 04/01/06
Posts: 56
Loc: mn
im a big 220 user and i have never got a dog. i only place my 220 coni. a half mile from any home site which could posb. hold a k9. of course useing good judgement is key ... useing 160 is a great idea if your worried about snagging dogs. for me it seems that to get the big boar bucketing is where i seem to pick them up over coilsprings which do produce coons but i have never seemed to reach the fully matrue coons like i have with my coni. sets. conibears are all about placement and grabbing the coons not the cats or k9. if your in a area which could posb. be dogs dont sets there are other ways to trick the bandts

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#4948 - 04/23/06 01:50 AM Re: bodygrip regulation -- 220 6 feet above ground
coon killer Offline
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Registered: 04/01/06
Posts: 56
Loc: mn
mr. otter in my state there is protection for dogs in conibears ... coni my not be placed closer then 3 feet away from a culvert and i dont think they may be used on wild life mang. areas. the storys u hear about coni. killing dogs are from trappers who missuse the 220 and stake it in high risk spots. giving 220 trappers like me a bad name. if u could use them in your state i bet u argee with me.

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#25347 - 10/17/17 12:17 PM Re: bodygrip regulation -- 220 6 feet above ground [Re: Straatmann]
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