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#6545 - 06/23/06 05:27 PM Beaver by two feet
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I don't think I posted this photo, but I ran across it today as I was looking through my files. This was from last February.



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#6546 - 06/23/06 09:19 PM Re: Beaver by two feet
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Hal, I'm not a beaver trapper, but I'm curious, how did that happen??

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#6547 - 06/24/06 06:42 AM Re: Beaver by two feet
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The beaver got both feet in the trap at the same time.

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#6548 - 06/24/06 10:02 AM Re: Beaver by two feet
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Just one of those neat things that happen on the trapline.

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#6549 - 06/24/06 11:16 AM Re: Beaver by two feet
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thats cool cool or intresting, i dont know what to say laugh

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#6550 - 06/24/06 06:56 PM Re: Beaver by two feet
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Was this set created so the feet would pass between the jaws instead of over them? confused Frank.
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#6551 - 06/24/06 09:34 PM Re: Beaver by two feet
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It looks like just a toe is in , could it have worked it in there fighting the trap?

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#6552 - 06/24/06 09:40 PM Re: Beaver by two feet
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Ok, I deserved that. Let me re-phrase the question. Could you describe the circumstances that would lead to such a catch??

Was the beaver entering or exiting the water?? Slide or perhaps a mound set??

Or as mentioned-just one of those things??

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#6553 - 06/25/06 06:18 AM Re: Beaver by two feet
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Registered: 07/22/03
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What Dale F said. The front foot is caught and the beaver slipped the toe in from the centre of the jaw as it struggled.

Is that trap an MB? It seems to be a trap that has both jaws held down.

Not a particularily large beaver. :rolleyes: The photo does show how an animal can step on a jaw lever.

Your February doesn't have much snow or ice! laugh

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#6554 - 06/25/06 01:34 PM Re: Beaver by two feet
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Musher: Good observation. However, in many parts of the civilized world there are ice and snow free days in February. But there is another explanation. This is the Ohio River. Thatís Ohio River water youíre looking at. Iíve lived here more than 30 years, and that river has frozen exactly once.

And thatís also part of the explanation for the weird catch. This is a navigable river. The water level and river traffic is maintained through a series of locks and dams. Twelve inch fluctuations are normal. That trap was out of position when the beaver hit it. The trap hadnít moved an inch, but the water level, up or down, had chanced by several inches.

I canít fully discount the possibility that the beaver clawed its way into the trap, but look closer. Look how deeply the front foot is into that trap, and how far forward it is. The beaverís front foot was standing between the pan and the jaw hinge when that trap fired. It fired the pan with the back edge of its front leg, as it was bringing itís back foot forward.

If the water had been a little shallower, I would have made solid front foot catch. If it had been a little deeper I would have had a back foot catch.

smile -- Hal
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#6555 - 06/25/06 07:48 PM Re: Beaver by two feet
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I hear what you're saying, Hal, and I agree with you IF the beaver was stepping THROUGH the jaws. What if it approached from ACROSS the jaws?

Since you are not dealing with tides I would guess that your water fluctuation is not exactly predictable. How deep do you place your trap? Is it still "elbow" deep?

I guess this pic disspells the "spring throwing a foot" fears.

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#6556 - 06/26/06 06:57 AM Re: Beaver by two feet
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Hal's deffinatley right on the fluctuation of the water. I trap the Ohoi river from time to time and you would really be suprised as to how much that water can rise/fall in a short period of time. :rolleyes:

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#6557 - 06/26/06 08:53 AM Re: Beaver by two feet
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Because of the way the trap was set, it is highly unlikely the beaver approached it other than between the jaws.

The Corps of Engineers does predict the river stage about three days in advance, but again their predictions are accurate only within about 12 inches. What I have to go by is whether the river is predicted to rise or fall. On rising water, I set the trap as shallow as possible. On falling water, I set the trap elbow deep. (I should note that Ohio law requires me to keep a trap of this size, "in water".) Either way, it's a crap shoot.

smile -- Hal
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#6558 - 06/26/06 09:30 AM Re: Beaver by two feet
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That is one of the reasons that I stick to the big swamps and the scioto river more and more every year. Theyre alot easier to deal with. laugh

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#25444 - 10/25/17 01:28 PM Re: Beaver by two feet [Re: Hal]
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Dated for search.

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