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#6906 - 04/17/06 04:19 PM Dive Sticks for Beaver
Carp Offline
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Registered: 04/08/06
Posts: 2
Loc: Eastern U.P. MI
I've been setting my 330's competely submerged in beaver channels/creeks with dive sticks at the surface. My 330's are resting on bottom or 2-3" off. The water depth has been 1.5'-2.5'. With this setup, there is roughly 4" to 12"+ between the bottom of the dive stick and top of the 330. Should a second dive stick be submerged to block this area? I've heard from other trappers that beavers always swim on the bottom when they dive. Is this true?

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#6907 - 04/17/06 04:36 PM Re: Dive Sticks for Beaver
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Registered: 07/22/03
Posts: 2005
Loc: Qc.
That depends. If the beaver is entering/leaving its' hut it is on the bottom. If the beaver is swimming up a channel, patroling, I'm not sure it goes on the bottom to go under a stick.

Myself, I don't use a divestick in channels. I place my BG so that the top jaw is 3-4 inches from the top of the water. When beaver are having a look around they are on top of the water. Why make them dive? They'll go through the trap.

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#6908 - 04/17/06 05:19 PM Re: Dive Sticks for Beaver
Mr. Otter Offline
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Registered: 04/13/06
Posts: 93
Loc: South Carolina
The reason you have a beaver channel Is because the beaver Is swiming right on the bottom.It's how they find their way around under water.So if this Is the situation I don't feel you need a dive pole.
Now If your trap Is just barely under water or for that matter just barely out of the water I would use a dive pole. Don't skimp on this dive pole ,make It so the beaver doesn't have the option to swim over it.
If your trap is half or more out of the water I don't feel you need a dive pole.

Otter

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#6909 - 04/17/06 05:27 PM Re: Dive Sticks for Beaver
Dale F Offline
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Registered: 01/09/01
Posts: 552
Loc: Erie, IL
Put a dive pole over trap and another one each way of this one to get the beaver under water before it reaches the one directly over the trap.

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#6910 - 04/18/06 12:02 PM Re: Dive Sticks for Beaver
Riverliner Offline
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Registered: 04/10/06
Posts: 3
Loc: New Brunswick
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With this setup, there is roughly 4" to 12"+ between the bottom of the dive stick and top of the 330. Should a second dive stick be submerged to block this area?
Simply....yes?Why take chances with missed and fired traps?I like to fence it down with dive-stix every 4-6" so that the beaver MUST go through the trap if he wants to use the channel.It only takes an extra couple minutes to wire an extra dive stick or two across and you can leave the set with confidence.The only gap I leave big enough for the beaver to get through is where the trap is. Don't want 'em going over,under,or around,cause Murphy says they will sooner or later.

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#6911 - 04/18/06 03:20 PM Re: Dive Sticks for Beaver
Hal Offline
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Registered: 07/17/00
Posts: 9936
Loc: Blue Creek, Ohio, USA
I'm one of those trappers who contends that a beaver almost always dives to the bottom to get under a dive pole. However, otter don't, and I am almost always trapping beaver and otter concurrently. In this case, if I have less than 10 inches between the bottom of the dive pole, and the top of the trap, I'll call it good. If there is more room than that I add a second dive pole, or a set of crossed sticks to fill in the gap, or cover the trap with a piece of brush instead of a pole.

Musher: If you set your traps in a channel, with the jaws 3 inches out of the water, how much space between the bottom of the trap and the bottom of the channel is acceptable to you? (P.S. That set wouldn't be legal is some states where #330s must be completely submerged.)

smile -- Hal
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#6912 - 04/18/06 05:06 PM Re: Dive Sticks for Beaver
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Registered: 12/29/04
Posts: 946
Loc: Cudahy, Wisconsin,USA
If the channel is deep enough to worry about more dive sticks, would stacking two 330s be an option? Frank. confused
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#6913 - 04/18/06 05:20 PM Re: Dive Sticks for Beaver
Hal Offline
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Registered: 07/17/00
Posts: 9936
Loc: Blue Creek, Ohio, USA
I think that would be wasting a trap. If a beaver got in one trap it would likely fire the other one. Sticks are cheaper than traps so I'd rather add a couple extra dive sticks.

(If a channel really warranted two traps, I'd set a second trap a few yards away.)

smile -- Hal
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#6914 - 04/18/06 07:18 PM Re: Dive Sticks for Beaver
musher Offline


Registered: 07/22/03
Posts: 2005
Loc: Qc.
Hal: I set traps like that in the beaver's patrol area. Usually the trap goes between humps of grass or between a flooded bush and the bank. The water isn't usually very deep. It's wadeable if the bottom is firm enough.

Sometimes, there's more than enough water for a beaver to pass under. I think the beaver just sees the trap as brush and swims through it. Otter and muskrats do also.

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#6915 - 04/19/06 08:26 AM Re: Dive Sticks for Beaver
Hal Offline
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Registered: 07/17/00
Posts: 9936
Loc: Blue Creek, Ohio, USA
How do you tell if the beaver are swimming under your traps?

smile -- Hal
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