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#7003 - 09/20/08 08:32 AM 110 bodygrip muskrat sets
babybull Offline
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Registered: 08/31/08
Posts: 97
Loc: Ohio
I have a ton of dikes to trap in big marshes for rats. I have 100 #1 LS with drowner set ups for sign sets and mud slides, but I have a bunch of 110 coni's as well. From scouting I see some good runs for box traps and coni's but the majority are good #1 LS locations.

Has anyone ever tried making "mock" rat trails and setting them with 110's? Like a mudslide going up the bank into the shore where there is some grass and setting the 110 in the grass area to hide it? Id liek to set all my 110's which is over 100 and i know I dont have that many "natural" sites.

What kind of sets can I set on the bank with a 110? I have probably 5-10 MILES of dikes to trap with thousands of acres of marsh surrounding them.

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#7004 - 09/20/08 10:39 AM Re: 110 bodygrip muskrat sets
KSCATMAN Offline
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Registered: 02/20/08
Posts: 75
Loc: SE Kansas
Make up some floats for you're longsprings.You can even make floats for you're 110s.

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#7005 - 09/21/08 07:09 AM Re: 110 bodygrip muskrat sets
Dale F Offline
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Registered: 01/09/01
Posts: 552
Loc: Erie, IL
I always set my 110"s under water. Stakes can blend in with tall grass and weeds and you spend time looking for them or worse backtracking looking for one. Hard to pass them in the water. You say you have thousands of acres of marsh,you should be able to keep a hundred 110"s and your long springs busy all season. Dale

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#7006 - 09/21/08 01:17 PM Re: 110 bodygrip muskrat sets
babybull Offline
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Registered: 08/31/08
Posts: 97
Loc: Ohio
Dale-

The problem is that I only have permission to trap the dikes...and not into the marsh themselves.

That is the reason for my question..otherwise Id be all set with runs and cabins!

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#7007 - 09/22/08 07:36 AM Re: 110 bodygrip muskrat sets
Lost trapper Offline
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Registered: 02/15/08
Posts: 136
Loc: lower michigan
Back in the 80's I did make my own rat runs where I thought they should be with some success. They were much more productive if I put them in early so the local rat's could start using them. I also baited them. Something else we did was to role a big rock out just far enough to set a coni between it and land, or we'ld use a log [staked down so it wouldn't move] the logs where nice because if it was four feet long or so you could use 2 traps, and cut a bed on it for a foot hold. add a little lure to the rock or the log and it's on. hope this helps.
Lost

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#7008 - 09/22/08 08:33 AM Re: 110 bodygrip muskrat sets
cjstrapping Offline
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Registered: 01/16/06
Posts: 239
Loc: NorthWest Ohio
In trapping large marshes along Lake Erie, I would wait until there was a bit of ice to use bodygrips. The bubbles will tell you exactly where to set those 110 size body grips. Right in front of the holes, under water. You will pick up many rats doing this, as well as a few mink.
Hit the dikes hard with your longsprings, making sign sets while you still have open water.
Also, use those 110's after freeze up, and guard holes above the water's surface....also great mink catchers.

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#7009 - 09/22/08 09:13 AM Re: 110 bodygrip muskrat sets
babybull Offline
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Registered: 08/31/08
Posts: 97
Loc: Ohio
cjstrapping....

Thats my idea. I want to set the dikes up hard with longsprings....and pocket sets for mink/coon. I was just trying to utilize the conibears too, since i have so many.

Im gonna buy 2 dozen 1-1/3 coils for the pockets and will likely pick up alot of rats at those too. Ill need some dog proof traps for coons as well and will set a couple dozen of those. I will be laid of from work so Im thinking 100 #1 long springs setting muskrat sign, 2 dozen coils set in pockets, 2 dozen dog proof coon sets, and 4-5 coyote/fox sets should keep me busy!

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#7010 - 09/23/08 11:59 AM Re: 110 bodygrip muskrat sets
Dale F Offline
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Registered: 01/09/01
Posts: 552
Loc: Erie, IL
I trap over 90% of my muskrats with bodygrip traps size 110 and 220's. Personaly I feel creating locations for these style traps is a waste of time, if you have a decent population of rats there should be plenty of places to set these on sign. 100 longsprings and 100 110's you should be able to mop up the majority of the rats pretty quick, if you are going to have a layoff for awhile I would gather up as much area as possible to trap. Dale

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#7011 - 09/26/08 11:04 PM Re: 110 bodygrip muskrat sets
DARRELL Offline
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Registered: 11/10/06
Posts: 24
Loc: Wisconsin
I just had a thought! I once saw a video by Jonny Thorp were he put a 160 on land flat and put lure in the middle. He claimed this was a simple set that the trap would jump up at its prey when the trigger was moved.

What if a trapper made a shelf on a rat house. Make it so it was under water a inch and placed a 110 flat on top of said shelf?

I just seem to have a hard time finding runs or openings on the rat houses by me. The water is to deep and stained. It is a shame because I have about 2 doz 110's I dont use. I wish I would have not bought them and bought more 1.5's. I use all my 1.5's for pockets.

Do any of you guys use your hands to feel for the den opening?

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#7012 - 09/27/08 08:17 AM Re: 110 bodygrip muskrat sets
babybull Offline
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Registered: 08/31/08
Posts: 97
Loc: Ohio
Darrell-

Ive done a ton of marsh trapping in my life. Its been a while but its like riding a bike:D

#1-I have trapped many a marsh with well over 500 huts in them. First thing I was taught was trapping on the ice in huts. Walk around the huts when the ice is "fresh". I would mark as many bubble trails as I could the first day while the ice was clear and snow free. Then chop the ice, put your glove on, and take the plunge! Id then set a 110 or a #1 Long spring in the hole. If using a #1 LS I made sure to keep the chain tight so the rat couldnt climb out of the water a chew. This has acounted for thousands of muskrats for me. Ive also used box traps in some of the bigger runs and really cleaned the huts out. I made one box trap that was over 3 ft long for a huge run to a hut....I had 9 rats in it the first check! Ive caught quite a few mink with huts sets under ice as well!

#2- When no ice is present...the way I was taught is to NEVER walk in a run around a hut and try to trap it. I was taught they will leave the hut...and from my experience of trying to trap huts in open water, WITHOUT A BOAT....it is true. The catch rate was WAY down. What I do here is set sign around the huts...or even on the hut itself. You can simply set any place with droppings or chewed up roots with a nice shelf to set the trap on. Fresh mud, and a #1 LS will wack them.

Not sure if that answered your question, I got off on a tangent. Do you trap when Ice is present? I set a ton of 110's during freeze up. The huts are the best bet if its legal in your state. Bubbles = holes and runs. The key is to mark as many with tape or whatever works for you so you have lots of places to set when/if the ice gets murky or snowy.

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