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#7393 - 03/11/08 06:36 AM Question: An Otter's Favorite Diet
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Otter are fairly new to me and this area, they were re-stocked here a few years ago, and are protected. Yesterday I found an otter toilet, tell me if I'm wrong, but this is the way it looked to me: it looked like the otter took a crap, then regurgitated on top of it. Does that make sense? That point was under-water the day before, so it was fresh. I've read where otter eat mainly "rough" fish, I examined the pile of scales/bones/fins. I did find one little chunk of a crayfish, and a partial fin, by it's color, I'd guess a sunfish/bluegill? In a stream with a variety of bass, panfish, suckers, etc, what is there a favorite diet? Or, do they just eat the first thing they catch? smile

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#7394 - 03/11/08 08:23 AM Re: Question: An Otter's Favorite Diet
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"then regurgitated on top of it"

That's a common misconception, and one I believed myself for some time. But that's not vomit. Otter suffer from chronic diarrhea. As far as having a "favorite" fish, I don't know. I've seen the remains of all kind of fish otter have been working on.

Hal
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#7395 - 03/11/08 10:19 AM Re: Question: An Otter's Favorite Diet
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Favorite fish would depend on your location and fish species present.In general they prefer rough fish such as suckers, in many areas they really seem to like the bullheads. Around here they really love the sculpin. Like anything that depends on catching food to survive they are opportunists. They prefer to catch whats easiest but they are not going to pass up a trout or bass if opportunity nocks.

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#7396 - 03/11/08 01:13 PM Re: Question: An Otter's Favorite Diet
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Fresh water clams are a fairly popular food source for the otter I trap. Not sure what there favorite food would be, other than what happened to be the closest when they got hungry.

RO smile

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#7397 - 03/11/08 10:26 PM Re: Question: An Otter's Favorite Diet
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I'd have to say crawfish in the warmer months and fish in winter. But they prefer big 'ol slab crappie off the dock, but feed heavily on rough fish too. I've found where they'll eat turtle at times. The break-down here in Missouri is as follows:
Crayfish 61%
Fish 51%
Frogs 17%
Muskrats 3%
Ducks 1%...This study from analysis of contents of 443 otter stomachs harvested 97-99 trapping seasons.

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#7398 - 03/12/08 12:08 AM Re: Question: An Otter's Favorite Diet
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Baby beavers are a favorite to otters.

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#7399 - 03/12/08 06:32 AM Re: Question: An Otter's Favorite Diet
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Ok, that makes perfect sense, for it's apperance. The bottom part of the pile looked like a turd, and the top part was just splattered. I guess they do have a fast metabolism?

The stream where I'm trapping has very few catfish, some of the bigger holes have a few carp, but we have white suckers by the 100's. A white sucker can weigh over 4#, and their scales would be at least 1/4" in diameter. The turd I looked at was full of small fish scales. I'm not sure, but I've had several people (fishermen) tell me that rockbass are really rare today, they used to be everywhere. smile

(Jackson, i don't understand your chart, too many %) smile

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#7400 - 03/12/08 07:38 AM Re: Question: An Otter's Favorite Diet
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I doubt if any of the samples consisted of one type of food.So read that as...Out of the sample group of X animals 61% had crawfish in them,51% had fish in them etc. etc.

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#7401 - 03/12/08 10:08 AM Re: Question: An Otter's Favorite Diet
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After further review: The full paragraph stated,"Analysis of 443 otter stomachs during the 97-99 trapping seasons revealed the following frequencies of occurence of food. In 4% of the otters studied, the stomachs were empty." Percentages given above are correct.

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#7402 - 03/21/08 09:15 PM Re: Question: An Otter's Favorite Diet
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In my area the otter is one of the major predators of beaver..year around but especially in early summer. Very few adults taken do not have old scars from fighting beavers.

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#7403 - 03/22/08 08:21 AM Re: Question: An Otter's Favorite Diet
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You're the second person on this thread who has mentioned otter eating beaver. Yet I can find no documentation.

Can either of you fellows cite research or any study that shows beaver found in the stomach contents of otter?

There is no shortage of beaver in Missouri, yet of those 443 otter necropised there not even one had eaten a beaver.

I find this curious.

Hal
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#7404 - 03/22/08 12:16 PM Re: Question: An Otter's Favorite Diet
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This is pretty common knowledge up here. I'm not sure I have the time to hunt up a study however there is no shortage of written material in government publications.

The predatory nature of northern otters likely has to do with prey availability. The otters in winter spend as much time above as below the ice. Fish and clams are not always around in this habitat so the beavers which number in the thousands on most trap lines are the most prevelant prey species.

Fish is a much easier target than beavers for an otter, as the otter has to fight the adults to get at the yearlings and kits...so if there is an abundance of fish in a habitat full of beavers I have no doubt the otter will choose fish.

A good analogy is the mink/muskrat relationship...up here the mink is the dominant predator of the muskrat, and the hunting technique is very similar to that of otters and beavers

When the otters hit a beaver colony on a drainage they chew through the ice below a dam and hunt the dens and lodges entering the runs under the ice.

I have seen otters nail young beavers in the spring/summer on several occations.

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#7405 - 03/22/08 03:26 PM Re: Question: An Otter's Favorite Diet
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That's interesting. If beaver were high on the otter's food list in the south, they would probably be protected with all the problems nuisance beaver have created.

I've caught a lot of otter with beaver bites on them too. But most of the time these bites are on the otter's tail or butt. I figured the otter just made the mistake of entering an active beaver den/lodge, and got bit on the butt as they turned to escape. I don't think I've ever seen one bit on the head or the shoulders, as if they had been fighting.

But again these are all southern otter. There's not much "under ice" activity, because there's not much ice.

smile -- Hal
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#7406 - 03/23/08 01:26 AM Re: Question: An Otter's Favorite Diet
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Interesting. I've seen plenty of places where otters have used beaver dams or lodges to get in or out of the ice. I've followed their trails for miles, found my share of "toilets," and even manged to catch a few. I've also caught a few otter in under-ice beaver sets. I've never seen any evidence of otter targeting beaver, and frankly, the possibility never really occurred to me.

I managed to dig up one paper that has actual data (Reid, D. G., T. E. Code, A. C. H. Reid, and S. M. Herrero. 1994. Food habits of the
river otter in a boreal ecosystem. Can. J. Zool. 72:1306-1313.). They found 27 beaver-bits in 1191 turds. Another (unpublished and unreviewed) paper (Heidi Hansen, University of Wyoming, 2003) said "it is commonly contended by trappers in Alberta that otters are significant predators
of beavers," but offered no evidence. I also found in a USFWS bulletin written by a forester (or the technician thereof), and claiming no particular credence that I can identify, "Northern river otters may kill young beavers found alone in a lodge."

So, it looks like there are data to support otters eating at least some beaver, but 2% of a reasonable sample of otters having beaver in their turds doesn't evoke the words "favorite" or "major predators" to me. Otters are fairly frequent visitors to moose kills. I'd not be surprised to find moose hair in >2% of the otters in some areas I trap, but that's not great evidence that otters are killing moose either! There's also lots of acknowledged conjecture, which generally says nothing meaningful about actual behavior.

I'd think I'd have found an otter-killed beaver or two in all the time I've spent flying around following otters. I find plenty of fish-bits that they've pulled up on the ice, especially in the spring when they're spending more time on top. Assuming they are killing beaver, what are they doing with them?

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#7407 - 03/23/08 10:36 AM Re: Question: An Otter's Favorite Diet
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Dusty,

I find that interesting. We have had Otter eat beaver out of under ice sets on the flats, so maybe they tend to scavange when the opportunity presents itself. Though I know of one instance where we are pretty sure that they wiped out a beaver hut, but couldn't verify it for sure as we coudln't go back come spring time to see.

We set up a hut with an under ice set and caught a beaver. However, the otters found the set and were going in and out of our hole. They spent some time there as they kept the hole open for the entire week and were in and out and playing on the hut and around the area. They ate out the entire inside of the beaver and around the head and tail area, pretty much leaving a bag of bones. However, after that, we didn't catch another beaver and that hut is now dead for the past two seasons. We are pretty sure they went in there and killed off the remaining beaver.

-TJ

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#27009 - 01/07/20 10:54 AM Re: Question: An Otter's Favorite Diet [Re: redsnow]
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